I saw that you had not been active in the wiki for a month and a half. I have to tell you that this can lead to a deselection as a bureaucrat. That's why I would like to ask now, if you will be active again in the foreseeable future.
If no answer has been received by Saturday, deselection begins.
Hello, The RPG Gamer. I am writing to you that you have become a wanted admin there. All we ask in return is that you become more active there and made 300 edits. If you don't want to join, that is fine, but we will get some else to take your space. But if you do want to join again, this is all you need to do.
Will you come back to Cosmic Brute Wiki?
Thanks in advance.
LM41 (talk) 19:11, June 12, 2018 (UTC)
Hey, The RPG Gamer. I heard that you like Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga. So, would you care to join Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga Wiki? I'm the only active user there and it would be nice if you could join. Please message as so as possible!
I've moved all my changes so far to my user page, as I am happy with my version of the page, and I am disappointed at your flippant revert of everything I have edited. I would strongly suggest a community discussion to determine which page style is preferred by users.
To answer your comments so far:
"nothing wrong with the footnotes" There are too many, a few are redundant and a different method (such as blue check marks for unlocks) makes it easier to read along.
"as well as the red Xs" If used in moderation, red Xs can be fine, but since the characters table is very big, even when it excludes redundant/unnecessary games, the wave of red Xs looks quite bloody.
"it needs to list every game not just some" All games are listed. The first two home games and the first handheld game are served by the "Recurring characters" section and are not in the table, as they each only include eight chracters and none of the 60 others. The same goes with the arcade releases, which have the recurring characters, plus DLC and arcade exclusives. As for the slot machine, it has recurring characters only. All said, that's why there are only six games in the table, or five if 8 and 8 Deluxe are merged.
For some perspective, the chart shown in "Nintendo re-releases Wii U comparison chart to clear up confusion" uses check marks only, no red X. (In that chart, the Wii uses bullet points instead of check marks, which is a marketing technique to make the Wii U seem better.) Microsoft does the same for Xbox (a chart will use either check marks or bullet points, not both, and has no X) and more. It's an industry standard.
A table that is too big, too bloated and visually unappealing won't have many readers interested. That said, I hope we can have a community discussion to hear what others think. Thank you for your time.
I never was flippant at all your edits and I never got angry, just the ones on the Characters page I was so calm and civil to you and I will explain the reasons to you now.
Blue check marks for unlocks is quite silly, it's no different to a starter character so they should both stay green. Footnotes just simplfy it in a way.
The red Xs may look bloody to you but other users like me think otherwise. We shouldn't remove an important thing from the table just because one user doesn't like it.
We should be listing every game because this isn't just some of the Mario Kart games. It looks pretty incomplete and inconsistent without the first three and people might question it. I'm trying to make it as good as possible
And for your last point, this isn't the Nintendo Wii U chart, nor is this the Microsoft XBox thing you brought up, this is the Mario Kart Wikia. We create pages the way we create pages, we don't follow in other sites' footsteps.
The table isn't super big or bloated at the most if it gets that way with new releases we could split the arcade games if need be.
That's all for now. You aren't in trouble or anything just take what I said into account anyway have a good day...
I'll leave the editing up to you two, but here is where I stand...
I think blue checkmarks or some other differing mark is good, it makes it real easy to differentiate between pre-unlocked and unlockables.
As for red Xs... I don't know, True Tech makes a good point. Having a bunch of Xs like that just gives the whole table a negative feeling. Like, there's a lot more Xs than checks. To me, it would be more appealing if we just left them out. Not every space has to have something in it, and when there's a ton of Xs, it seems like the page keeps saying "No, no no..."
RPG Gamer's table layout, where it includes all the games in order (not having the first 3 separate) is better and looks more complete. Beginning on Double Dash!! just seems kind of random. I get what True tech's trying to do, but I don't think it's the best way.
Footnote amount is ok, but it would be convenient if it could be lowered just a little.
That's just my opinion. Perhaps both of you can come to a consensus and use elements of both versions. Or at least try and understand the other side's viewpoint a little better.
I'm happy with the replies. A lot of things can seem nuanced and tough to understand when dealing with a wiki online, but your replies are good.
If we were to implement BananasAreAnnoying's suggestions, would it be possible to have options (like check boxes) that show or hide the first three games and 8 Deluxe? The arcade games were separate when listed on Wikipedia (they removed the character lists there because they considered it cruft), and I'd advocate for them (including Arcade GP VR) being separate here, but I'm willing to hear the thoughts of others.
For Tour, I believe it should have a section of its own. Gaming on Android and iOS isn't the same as having dedicated Nintendo hardware. I expect Tour to have recurring characters and then some, just like the arcade.
Thanks for your time. I'll keep editing throughout the wiki, but I'm always open to feedback. Take care. :-)
Yeah, a collapsible menu that could show or hide games would be fine. I'm not sure how to implement that on wikia, but if you could find a way, then be my guest.
Looking at the page, I also like how they are organized on the section titled "List of Mario Kart games." Maybe you could divide it into separate tables. But yeah, do whatever you think is good, and if someone disagrees with it, there can hopefully be compromise.
I started a brand new series! It's called Mario Kart Item Elimination! I want people to vote for contestants to get eliminated! First, it will start out with the Worst Watermelons, then it will go to the contestants except for the one who won the challenge.